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      Rollover function should ask for allowed slippage parameter.

      Today I clicked Rollover as investor on three investments with positive profit. Next step is of course waiting for synchronization.

      What did happen?
      Profit on two of investments lowered in the meantime to a half and third one went down to negative (loss).

      What did PAMM system do?
      Simply executed rollover and decreased my initial investment for a loss.

      Who would click Rollover to intentionally deduct loss from investment?
      Nobody.

      It would be great to implement an additional parameter which would set a condition for a PAMM-System at Rollover final execution. This should be a value by meaning similar to slippage parameter in MQL4 OrderSend() function.

      Dear InstaForex, can you implement this?

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      Investor & trader should realize that once you click rollover, you've increased the percentage of profit/loss. The risk now is higher than before rollover.

      E.g.:- If the investment is $100. Let's say the investment now profit 50%.

      1) No Rollover: Your percentage of profit/loss is calculate by the same "Start Amount" ($100 and not the "Return" amount)
      So if your new profit/loss is 10%, the value is $10.

      2) Rollover done: Your percentage of profit/loss is now calculate by the new "Start Amount" ($100+investor's share and not the $100 anymore)
      So if your new profit/loss is 10%, the value is >$10.

      My suggestion is click rollover if current trade is in profit position, and this is suitable to mid & long term trading or never click is better.

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      Quote Originally Posted by hundred2000k View Post
      My suggestion is click rollover if current trade is in profit position, and this is suitable to mid & long term trading or never click is better.
      I clicked Rollover when my investment was in profit - seen thru investments monitoring.

      Rollover's synchronization takes hours to complete.

      It should be cancelled by the system if profit has changed significantly or better say if profit changed for more than investor's allowed tolerance (slippage parameter).

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      StanleyXmas, if you don't mind, which PAMM-acc you invest?
      I'm trader & investor too.

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      Quote Originally Posted by hundred2000k View Post
      StanleyXmas, if you don't mind, which PAMM-acc you invest?
      I'm trader & investor too.
      hundred2000k, what do you mean?

      I have many PAMM-Investor accounts currently investing in three different PAMM-Projects (all at InstaForex broker).
      So I am describing my bad experience from investor's side only.
      Rollover should have a safety fuse built-in that it doesn't execute any transactions if profit drops between synchronization time for more than allowed slippage.

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      hmm. I have three PAMMs now and no one rollower button still
      I had them before but month ago they dissapeared.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BH-Eurofighter View Post
      hmm. I have three PAMMs now and no one rollower button still
      I had them before but month ago they dissapeared.
      On investor's side Rollover button disappears at all investments with negative profit at the moment of displaying a report page.
      Rollover button still exists next to all investments with positive profit.

      So this part works just fine for PAMM-Investor's monitoring on InstaForex PAMM-System.

      BH-Eurofighter,
      interesting what is happening then on PAMM-Trader's side?
      Is it possible that InstaForex can regulate this on its own per PAMM-Project?
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      Quote Originally Posted by StanleyXmas View Post
      BH-Eurofighter,
      interesting what is happening then on PAMM-Trader's side?
      Is it possible that InstaForex can regulate this on its own per PAMM-Project?
      They can. For sure! And I think they can regulate even buttons for
      Investor/partners conditions. On last PAMM I cant adjust it now again.
      It happens to me in the past on other projects but suddenly buttons appear
      in one moment.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BH-Eurofighter View Post
      They can. For sure! And I think they can regulate even buttons for
      Investor/partners conditions. On last PAMM I cant adjust it now again.
      It happens to me in the past on other projects but suddenly buttons appear
      in one moment.
      Hope this is not A SOFTWARE BUG of PAMM-System but just incorrectly set parameters at InstaForex side.

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      Today I checked my PAMM acc as investor and find no rollover button on any green PAMM
      Does ROLLOVER button not working on weekend?

      Quote Originally Posted by BH-Eurofighter View Post
      hmm. I have three PAMMs now and no one rollower button still
      I had them before but month ago they dissapeared.

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