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      Of course no i don't use stop loss as stop out because this mean that you sacrifice with all your balance in one trade only and this is misunderstanding for using stop loss because stop loss help us too much to make our trading with low risk and money managements if we followed the following steps :

      1- if we made our stop loss for 1% only from our balance this will make us have very little loss on our trades .
      2- stopping our loss on very little risk help us to cover it easily with any other trades .
      3- using stop loss for 1% only help us to control on our trades easily with the other 99% that we have it in our account for example :

      - if we have 1000 dollar and we opened trade with 50 cent per pip if our stop loss 20 pips our loss will be 10 dollar only and we will be able to compensate it with any other trades but if we traded with 50 dollar per pip and our stop our 20 pips this will lead us to losing the whole balance and this will make us unable to compensate any of our loses .

      So we have to use the stop loss to makes our trading with low risk and money management because this help us to compensate any loses we do it while our trading but using it as stop out will lead us to destroying our accounts as near as possible .


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      There are pretty much a couple of stuff that could make a forex trader decide to use stop loss as a stop out, the first thing we can note is that this person is overly aggressive which is not helpful in the long run, you don't trade forex like a do or die thing and think your goals of financial freedom is going to be possible.

      Trading needs some self control, the people that often use stop loss as a final margin call to their account ironically don't set anything at all, they open a position and leave SL out with the intention that if the market goes with their analysis, they will make a huge withdrawal but if they are wrong, the account is automatically wiped out, most often the latter is what happens.


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      Well yeah, I ever used stop loss as stop out. This is because I trade with high risk and I risked all of my capital in one trade. Crazy right?. Yeah, it is crazy because I will lose my all capital in just one trade. So, I can't make mistake if I use high risk trading. What I can do now is to always maintain my effort so that I will be able to reach my target in this business. What I learned in this business is that we need to use stop loss in each trade we make so that we will be able to sustain in trading. Trade without stop loss is like cycling a motorcycle without a helmet. So please use stop loss in your trading.


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      Yes there are several ways we can make use of the stop loss on trade, some of us don't seem to know the full utility of stop loss order.
      Stop loss can also be use as stop out, this often happen in situation where our trade are known profit and rather than loosing a winning trade we would rather move the stop loss to break even or set it as stop out to close the trade on profit.

      But if my trade is in loss then my stop loss will remain my stop loss and I won't have to move it.

      I think the best way to avoid loosing much in the market is to learn how to always move our stop loss to break even after it's in profit, it can be painful to loose a trade after some good profit.


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      Quote Originally Posted by dzin4aans View Post
      The question is fairly simple. You can either use stop loss as a tool or have enough money for that one trade and use that amount of money as your stop loss and stop out level.

      Why would use use it as a stop loss or why would not? Looking forward to your answers.
      Stop loss is a way to stop the ongoing forex trading automatically when the price touches the price point that the trades are set in terms of loss. I sometimes use stop loss when there is big news. Because in the state of big news it will be difficult to stop trading when the market is moving quickly. If I do not use stop loss then if my prediction wrong will have an impact on my capital that will be reduced a lot. If using stop loss then automatically I do not need to stop my trades because it automatically stops itself if it has set a loss that I use. If there is no big news, sometimes I use it if I'm not sure where the market will move


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      For me in the past I have used the stop loss as stop out when I had a huge drawdown in my equity and by balance came really lower that I had no other options just to relax and wait for the market to stop out me as I had no stop loss set for that trade.
      But it might be a devastating method for traders because it not only put the trader in huge risk but also if it stop you out the trader wont have any second change to enter the market and that's what is really pathetic. So I would recommend the trader not to use this method because it will be a gambling approach to trading which is really not the type we want to trade the market. Rather we need to follow a proper money management strategy which might not give us huge profit in one trade but it will teach us lots of lessons in the market and make sure that we are doing what we are supposed to do in the market. Just taking one big trade and waiting to take great profit or nothing does not make sense in the forex market rather it makes sense in casino and betting.
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      using the stop loss properly is very important when trading the high risk currencies market. using stop out as stop loss is very wrong and would most times end in margin calls. a stop out is simply a situation where the trading platform automatically closes a trade when there is no more room for it to keep accumulating the losses. by the time this happens, the capital is almost exhausted and the trader might have little or no trading funds in his account.

      traders that normally use stop out as their stop loss are huge high lot traders whom i would call forex gamblers. most times they use lot sizes that leaves them with less than 20 pips resistance. you and i know 20 pips would probably not survive in this business even when the trade bias is correct. traders should learn to use stop losses properly so as to have good trading results.
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      Do you use stop loss as stop out? The word stop out in this context means allowing trading platforms to close your trade for you simply because your margin and free margin approaches zero and even negative .Only traders that are accustomed to using high lot size experience this stop out. A trader with $100 trading capital ,decided to use 4 dollar per pip lot size might be exposed to experience stop out if the entry is not right just because he has only 25 pips resistance. Traders in this shoes are not always friendly with the use of stop loss . they are reckless and care less about the loss of their trading capital. Sincerely speaking ,it is a bad way to trade forex market. I personally do not fancy it.


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      Margin Call and Stop Out is the name for price levels where the broker will give a warning or close our trading position automatically because the availability of funds in it is considered not able to maintain the position. in this first approach, you do not set your own Stop Loss level, but just follow the Margin Call and Stop Out levels required by the broker, Causing big losses and our funds run out.
      For most traders, the decision to put a stop loss is an uncomfortable choice. At least by applying a stop loss so we are not exposed to margin call but still in the category of loss in the sense of minimizing the loss so as not too much. every trader has the right to decide for himself which trading model is best suited to him, either by using stop loss or ignoring it, it returns to the trading strategy used by each trader.


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      Every good and expert trader will must used stop loss on every executed trade specially on long term trade which they can take big lot size risk in a big investment account, we all know forex is very risky if we cannot use this tool then our account will be finished or if we can have full experience about market movement and have perfect idea market will not goes to negative side then we can on set take profit in our risky trade or using trailing stop on it then our account will be safe and secure. in this business we can manage our investment with doing daily trading in real account the more difficult way to safe capital in live market forex need more time and hard working then our ideas and methods will works and profit will added in our real trading account.


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